Jesus Occupying Wall Street? Not Likely
October 29, 2011
The question on everybody’s lips is…? Well, perhaps not on everybody’s lips, but certainly rattling in a few minds in West Michigan. “Would Jesus join the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ crowd?” I’m not sure, but I’m thinking that he probably wouldn’t. My assumption is that, if Jesus were walking amongst us in the flesh, he would not be anywhere in the United States, save perhaps Detroit or Flint. More likely, the Messiah would be in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Gaza and the West Bank. But, just for the moment, let’s consider what the Bible has to say about Jesus, the early church, and Rome – and – even Wall Street.
I’m not sure that Jesus or the Apostles would be camping for weeks in one place to protest unequal distribution of wealth. My understanding of Scripture is that the first-century “Jesus Movement” was too busy healing, feeding, and preaching repentance in preparation for the oncoming Reign of God. There might be groups of folks in the Bronx that needed to be fed and healed of AIDS. There might be groups of revolutionary groups at Columbia that were preparing to make trouble on Wall Street. The Beloved Disciple would see students arranged in groups of action, and write that Jesus, above all, would preach about the oncoming realm of God, and then insist that he would not be the kind of leader that would want him to be.
Perhaps Jesus might have gone to Bank of America for a moment. He might challenge the consumer choices that Americans (rich and poor) make, and the choices we often make when it comes to exhibiting faithfulness to the market economy instead of the economics of God. He might go into a Wall Street brokerage and overturn a table in condemnation of how people’s lives are manipulated by unethical market practices. He might
However, let’s again consider John’s Gospel and the feeding of the 5000. Folks preparing for the trip to Jerusalem for Passover came to Tiberias to hear him preach. John said they these folks were prepared to “make him king.” Now, a gathering of 5000, in the first-century, was equal to that of a Roman Legion. Jesus refused to lead such a group. Yet, because Jesus refused to lead Galilean peasants into Jerusalem like a Roman Legion, it does not mean he didn’t offer liberation from the reality of unjust economic systems.
John remembers that the disciples, when finding that this Passover “army” was in need of feeding, were looking to spend some of the money they had to feed them. They did not have enough to feed everyone, but that was their first thought. There they were, a people ready to be lead to salvation, they didn’t have enough to eat! Actually, in the first-century, hunger was a fairly common experience. Lot’s of Galilean food went to feed the Romans. Two hundred denarii would not feed a legion.
Jesus knew this, of course, but John says he was “testing the disciples.“ Instead of participating in the economy of Rome, Jesus used the meager resources of the community and miraculously fed the “legion” of Tiberias. There was no need to occupy Jerusalem during Passover making demands on the Temple elites. Perhaps Jesus knew that, what was needed was a community of disciples who took care of one another. Whether rich or poor, pure or impure, sane or crazy, Jesus invited all and sundry to repent and receive salvation from an economy that lured people into financial realities that did not reflect God’s will. Like Wall Street, the economy of Jerusalem and Rome necessarily marginalized the importance of community. Jesus called all folks, not just rich folks to repent of the sin that prioritizes the struggle for financial and political power over faithfulness to God. Perhaps, those who occupy Wall Street are looking for a more just economic system. The question is, does the concept of human rights guarantee that all will be able to live an economically stable life, or that everyone should get a piece of the consumer pie. Another question is, whether the Bible, or Jesus, was concerned about human rights. I believe that Jesus was concerned with justice.
However justice, whether it be economic or social, often calls for those who are well within their rights to move on up the economic ladder to forego those rights. Often, justice calls for prioritizing community over individual rights, and I’m not sure the Wall Street protesters are any more willing to eschew individual privilege any more than Wall Street brokers are. Funny thing is, they all say that what they are doing is for the benefit of the human condition. The problem might be, however, that they are more invested in beating the other side than in forging new relationships. There seems to be a concept that someone must lose before justice is achieved. It is Jesus and the prioritizing of reconciliation that will liberate them from the need to dominate over one another. For Christians, the assumption of privilege comes with the duty to pay Caesar what belongs to him. Caesar gets his percentage of the cut. Disciples get the bread and fish dinner. At that point, it’s simply a question of where God wants the church to be.
October 29, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Well, Hoss, I have already posted on the FB page that I think Jesus would occupy wall street. I don’t necessarily agree with what you write here, especially in the sense that poverty and disenfranchisement can be pretty relative, especially for the American middle class compared with someone living in Gaza. Jesus certainly called all people to repent of their sin but the fact is that the rich get away with a lot more than do the poor. The rich have the means to hire attorneys, influence law makers, etc. The poor don’t I am not necessarily a huge fan of Occupy Wall Street but the fact is that Wall Street creates millionaires at the expense of the poor all over the world. Just like terrorism, we are seeing this type of thing come to our land up close and personal. The rich have always exploited people. Up until recently the rich in America have pretty much just exploited people in other countries. Now, in their desire to create more wealth for themselves, the rich have taken to disenfranchising the American middle class. For a long time the rich gave the American middle class just enough to keep them happy and off the backs of the rich. They typically did that by telling the middle class that if they played their cards right they could become millionaires, too. Finally, the rich have begun to run out of poor to exploit. Thus, in America, they have taken to creating more poor to exploit. Thus we have an economy akin to that of the ancient Roman Empire. Very few controlled the military, religious, ideological and economic power of the world then. A very few seek now to do the same in the world today. I am of the mind that were he around today, Jesus would see that the greed of the rich can only be satisfied by creating more and more poor people. Thus, I would suggest that Jesus might go to Wall Street to show solidarity with the 95% that are being forced back into the ancient ranks of the peasants of old upon whose backs Caesar built his world-wide empire.
October 29, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Who says it’s an unjust economic systems? The ones that don’t work hard enough to benefit it? I know some are born with a silver spoon in their mouth, but are all??? I doubt it. Should I cry foul for not knowing if I can make my next house payment? Should I “make” someone else pay my bills? I wonder how much all of the OWS crowds from all other the world has giving in charity COMBINED compared to… oh lets say Jon Huntsman, Sr.?
Bill, Jesus would be standing with these radicals, racist, Communist, Marxist, Socialist, Anarchist, that are all working together to destroy Capitalism? Really? Capitalism isn’t the problem, it’s the ones that exploit other people for their own good. That’s the problem. It’s like saying Sam Colt is responsible for shooting deaths… It’s the one pulling the trigger! Do we blame GM for drunk drivers? NO! I’m sure if you picked ANY system there is going to be someone EXPLOITING someone else!
I see all this support we should be giving for the OWS crowd and all I see of them is a group of whiners that are too lazy to get off there ass and WORK! Just think of what the Wright brothers if they had been a bunch of whiners…
This is what I see of the OWS crowd.
http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2011/10/24/is-occupy-oakland-as-bad-as-they-say/?singlepage=true
http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/fox-5-news-reporter-assaulted-at-ows-20111028-KC
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/alleged-flyer-at-occupy-phoenix-ponders-when-should-you-shoot-a-cop/
I see Jesus standing with the Tea Party protester way more then these “Useful Idiots”…
October 30, 2011 at 12:52 am
Jesus would be talking to the banksters and other kleptocrats and telling them they need to return the stolen goods. (The essence of his dialogue with the “rich young man,” who could only have become wealthy, in the economy of that day, by usury and foreclosures of people’s family land. These days, it would be by barely concealed white collar fraud. ie see Bill Black’s video on this.) Because that is what the Torah implies about the goods of this world, as they belong to God and are merely loaned to us so for the nourishment of all of us.
How Jesus would specifically respond to the systemic evils of this nation, I don’t know. How does he tell you to respond?
October 30, 2011 at 1:12 am
Thanks, forrest. I think Jesus has been guiding me to find alternatives to the present system of market economics. I tend to be a free market type, but on a limited and localized scale. I also feel called to live in a community of goods, or something similar, that allows folks to pursue vocation and relationship with those who are broken while others find ways to produce for the community. I feel much better when I am in relationship with those who make my clothing, supply my milk, share hunting land, and trade food. This seems to me to be a pretty fair market, where I pay what others consider a fair price. I think this informs my experience of Jesus because I am attempting to creat alternatives to consumerism. My experience of economics is that each system exploits others, not because it is capitalist or communist or socialist, but because that is what empire does. My understanding of the Bible is that empire has always assumed, with much hubris, the authority that Jesus states is reserved for YHWH. From Egypt to England, from Japan to the United States, empire is a fact of life, and in order for western consumers to live the life of leisure that is evident, even amongst much of our poor. Jesus does not call me to rage against the empire, as generally such power struggles end up in violent conflict. I suppose Jesus calls me to develop an alternative economics, and offer others an alternative to being totally consumed by, well consumerism. Jesus wouod reject Happy Meals.
October 31, 2011 at 11:31 am
There’s a kind of small-scale, functional capitalism that Adam Smith wrote about. But now we have a bloated, disfunctional parody of that, in which people who accumulate money by counterproductive sharp practices use it to corrupt the government, so they can use it indirectly to legalize their misdeeds, directly to subsidize it.
Jesus was continually striving to mitigate the harsh operation of the disfunctional parody of Judaism that supported and exploited the Temple cult of his day. He died as a direct result of what looks to have been (though there’s certainly room for diverse interpretations) an explicit demonstration against the very operation of that Temple.
We do need to connect with the ‘Occupy’ movement to counter the ‘Empire’-mode (‘authoritarian, self-righteous, manipulative and partisan’) tendencies that might easily undermine and discredit a movement of legitimate indignation.
October 30, 2011 at 1:05 am
Seems Black is against this current administration as being the cause of the problem as much as the greedy bankers are.
October 30, 2011 at 4:54 am
The roots of it go back well before 2008.
If you look at what Hyman Minski was saying ~1985, there’s a tendency for a stock market to get increasingly removed from actual production for as long as a government keeps acting to stabilize it, due to certain perverse incentives: Why invest in a real industrial plant offering a modest return, when you can buy Celestial Unreal Estate, built on a leaky sewage site but offering 150% per year, sell it to The Next Fool before it turns over and dies, then get your congresscritter to sabotage any effective regulation that might prevent this sort of behavior.
Honesty? Well, when the social environment favors irresponsible and unscrupulous practices– if picking the honest investment while your competitor chooses the big-payoff scam leads to him getting the promotion, and you getting fired– there’s a strong tendency for people to get corrupted or get out.
And since this has been a prime source of political contributions, we’ve seen a dishonest market driving a corrupt political system driving a dishonest market etc.
Bush’s gang was scandalous… but then Obama came in, offering ‘change’, but carrying on the same policies. Obama just happened to come in when the criminal investigations should have been starting, but weren’t.
October 30, 2011 at 5:02 am
Then why has Obama taken more monies from Wall Street then any other past President combined?
October 31, 2011 at 4:07 am
Does the expression ‘non sequitur’ mean anything to you?
October 31, 2011 at 4:18 am
God, you Quakers are sooo funny!
October 30, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Many of these people are there to covet what someone else has . This is breaking a commandment of God. Many are to lazy to use their minds to form ideas that help themselves and their neighbors . Others do not really know why they
are there and like to party Some politicians are there to stir up trouble between people . Hitler used these same tactics in Germany before the war . These are not the solutions
that Jesus would want to be a part of . He is watching and again Weeping and saying YouYou You.
October 31, 2011 at 4:07 am
What did Jesus say about self-righteous ignorance, false witness– and do you really think he appreciates seeing this done in his name?
October 31, 2011 at 11:41 am
[I've been very uncomfortable about having had to confront and name thy behavior, because 'Satan' is not called 'The Accuser' for nothing! I need to be, as we all need to be, extremely leery of condemning that all-too human eagerness to condemn-- a way of thinking that goes back to Eve's first bite of that insidious, misleading fruit!
But Jesus was locked in a constant struggle with that, continually needing to defend the poor and the Torah against those who used self-righteous piety to justify the theft of God's bounty from its intended use: the nourishment of all God's people.]